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Ugly, creepy guys!

It’s not “creepy” if he’s hot. I freely admit it. When a very attractive stranger approaches me and tells me I’m beautiful, it brightens my day. When a guy who is short, fat or balding does it, it makes my skin crawl no matter how tactful he is about it. I just want him to go away. I’m not alone in feeling this way. Most women feel the same, but hide the true extent of it when the guys are around.

If said ugly guy doesn’t pick up on social cues that I’m not interested in getting to know him, it makes me even more uncomfortable than just him being there already does. I have to deal with this sh*t constantly everywhere I go, and it never stops. Guys, please, learn to KNOW YOUR PLACE!!! We ARE visual, just like you are. We only want GOOD LOOKING guys to approach us. If you’re any combination of short, balding, fat or 10 years older than me, please, for your own sake and mine, kindly F*CK OFF!
I don’t date your kind. Yes, I mean “kind” as in “different species”, because that’s what you are to me. I’m a human being, not an uggo like you, and I don’t do bestiality. You should be socially aware enough to know disinterest when it’s right in front of your homely ass face! Ugly men who act “confident” act out of character, and that’s creepy. Know your place and leave your genetic superiors ALONE!! It really is that simple. Don’t like it? THAT’S TOO D*MN BAD!! You’re not entitled to sex or companionship.

Many of you men reading this will tell yourselves I’m just a b*tch and delude yourselves into thinking I’m in the minority, or that this is satire. No, it isn’t. These are my honest feelings, and I’m NOT alone in feeling this way. Most women DO secretly feel this way, and THAT’s why we have sexual harassment laws! Too many of you genetic failures and guys who have aged past your prime don’t know your place and think you’re allowed the same social freedoms as a hot guy, so we need those laws to keep you uggos in your place. Either accept your role as someone of a lower class and ACT ACCORDINGLY, or it’s sexual harassement. So f*cking what if I let a hot guy grab my ass? That does NOT mean it’s OK for YOU to do it!!!

If you’re not hot, we see right through your so-called “confident” act and know exactly what you’re doing. It’s laughable. You idiots really actually believe we’re “less visual” than you, and that alone is pretty creepy. You don’t know your league and think you have a chance with someone in a higher class. Newsflash, boys: The only pretty girls who date plain guys are whoring themselves for some selfish benefit, and you guys are too f*cking stupid to see it. That’s why so many of you end up divorced and getting played for fools, then try to say all women are users and gold diggers. Um…hello?? Honest women either date hot guys or stay single, so of course you’re gonna meet a lot of dishonest people if you’re always trying to date someone above you on the sexual totem pole!

Want a girl that can actually love you instead of using you? STICK TO YOUR OWN KIND!! If you’re not attracted to women of your own class, you need to improve your looks and move up. Get plastic surgery if you have to. Without good looks, your “awesome personality” is worthless for anything but platonic friendship, and your earning potential is only “attractive” to materialistic girls. If you want genuine love or desire from a woman, she has to be turned on by you in a sexual way. Real attraction is entirely about looks, and ONLY looks. If you try to circumvent that rule, you show an entitlement mentality, and it’s obvious you think we owe you our sexual servicies.

I have an advanced degree and make a good enough living on my own, so I don’t need your earning potential or “generosity”. I have plenty of platonic friends, so I don’t need you for that, either. The only thing I need a man for is sex and reproduction. I can easily land a hot guy for marriage and relationships, so I don’t have to prostitute myself out to an average looking guy just so I can get married and have kids.

Think I’m here only to rake the guys over the coals? No. I have something to say to some of the women out there, too – like those who date plain lookin guys and hand out chances like chocolates to guys they don’t find so hot once they start getting desperate for marriage. Do you seriouly not realize how this collective settling behavior perpetuates patriarchy, male entitlement, rape culture and all the other things we fight so hard against?!?

The very core of patriarchy and all associated problems is rooted in a myth that so many men honestly believe – that we are less “visual” than they are. Many of us continue to bow to society’s pressure, outwardly pretending this myth is reality, often even to the point of essentially prostituting ourselves out of desperation for marriage/kids and rationalizing it as “love”. Then, we tell ourselves that this is what “mature” women do, because the idea that we are prostituting ourselves is too painful to accept. Men see our settling behavior and assume it’s “proof” that looks aren’t that important to us, then they wonder why they have such a lousy sex life with their girlfriends or wives.

It isn’t just patriarchy alone that pushes the “looks don’t matter” lie. Those women who settle for plain looking guys are traitors amoung us, because they play along to protect their own personal interests, and themselves shame any woman who refuses to whore herself by giving the not-hots “a chance”. Sorry, b*tch, but refusing to be bullied into glorified prostitution doesn’t make me “shallow”, and only dating hot guys doesn’t make me a “slut”. I refuse to date a guy I’m not attracted to, because unlike you, I CANNOT in good conscience sell a guy a fake illusion of “love” just to fill some unmet need. Many of you are guilty of this, and you know EXACTLY what you’re doing!

What I’m attracted to, sexually, has nothing to do with my character as a person. Yes, I want a hot guy, and I DON’T apologize for that! I can afford to be picky because I can easily get what I want. If that makes me “shallow”, than so be it. At least I’m not a settling, two-faced WHORE who lacks the self respect to stay single if she can’t get something long-term with a man that turns her on!

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  1. Your average ugly guy

    Hey, it’s completely understandable. You are right. We ugly guys are shit. No girl wants to date us. No girl wants to sit with us or talk to us. If we smile at her then it’s harassment. We don’t get matches on tinder. I wish all of us could die.

  2. Anonymous

    One thing I definitely agree with is the point about women who fuck and marry men they aren’t physically attracted to. They’re basically prostitutes in denial, many going to great lengths to convince _themselves_ they’re “in love” with the man they settled for.

    Sad thing is, this shit is pretty common. It’s not rare at all, and it’s not just gold diggers who do this. At least half of relationships out there are like this, and it’s a big reason behind so many relationship problems – constant nagging, starting drama, game playing, high compensation expectations, high-maintenance behavior, eventually resentment, cheating, sexless marriage, high divorce risk, etc… Mutual physical attraction _is_ important for a long term relationship! If your girl claims “looks aren’t important”, it ain’t “maturity”, it’s a damn red flag!

    You guys out there need to be aware of how common this is, and for your own financial, emotional and sexual wellbeing’s sake, weed out the settlers! Screen them out! If you’re looking for something serious, make them think you’re only interested in a friend with benefits or a casual fling, then only pursue something further with a woman who still sticks around. Why do this? If she doesn’t find you “hot” enough for no-strings-attached fun, she cannot be trusted for anything serious! If she makes you “wait”, I would advice you to not take the risk, and just move on. The majority of girls who make you “wait” or play other “virtue” games simply aren’t that into you, physically. If she’s a exception? So what! There’s no surefire way to know, so you’re better off not risking it. Gotta be willing to break a few hearts to protect your own. Too many women out there have been brainwashed into settling for men they’re not legitimately attracted to, and believe me, guys, you _don’t_ want to find yourself trapped in a shitty marriage with a settler!

  3. Anonymous

    “I CANNOT in good conscience sell a guy a fake illusion of ‘love’ just to fill some unmet need.”

    But your conscience does not prevent you from publicly degrading men you don’t find acceptable to a subhuman classification on a sexual hierarchy? You really are a sick cunt.

  4. Anonymous

    No self respecting bloke will even want to go for a superficial cunt like her.

    • Anonymous

      She’s really just being brutally honest and not deceiving herself. Such is life.

    • Chloe

      Have fun with settlers and gold diggers, then, because if you aren’t hot, that’s what your options are. A “shallow” woman is an honest woman. She won’t pretend to be in love with some naive ugly fool just because she’s desperate to get married.

  5. Incelsior

    In response to the original post:

    I’m so sorry. I truly am remorseful upon reading your thoughts.

    I don’t know what to say to get your forgiveness. I didn’t know that this is how I made you feel. I sincerely and without any reservation, submit my most humblest solemn apologies.

    Tears stream down my face from the shame I feel at causing you the anguish that you feel. I just did not know that I made you feel this way. As I wipe away the tears and type this message to you, please know that I will never darken your surroundings with my presence. You are absolutely correct- I should have never engaged in conversation with you. It was my exuberance and arrogant ego that was lifted and a swell in my heart grew when an angel as beautiful as you stopped to talk to me. I had never had the warm radiance of a girl’s alluring charm and enchanting beauty captivate me like that. But no more- It will never happen again. This I swear to you.

    I will forever be a silent gargoyle, adrift in my deep sorrow for causing offence and insult. Please, rest assured, I have deleted your number with swift purpose, and take a solemn oath to never call you for any reason.

    If ever, by chance, our paths were to cross again in passing- my gaze will be dropped in your direction and you will only be presented with the smile of a polite stranger.

    In closing, I want you to know that I meant no harm and that the compliments were genuine. I have been well and truly enlightened to my station in life, and you will never have to fear me or my ubiety…

    Yours in passing,

  6. Anonymous

    It’s pretty obvious that this is not written by a woman. I’m surprised so many commenters haven’t picked up on that.

  7. Anonymous

    What a bollocks. She’s thinking that slow that I would have to be 2 yrs old to follow her

  8. magazord

    Woman gets old like milk, man like wine.

    • Anonymous

      Why does it matter how men age if “looks don’t matter” to women?
      Secondly, just how men cope by believing that their looks don’t matter, they too cope how they “age better”. Complete, and utter cope.

    • Anonymous

      Sure, keep telling yourselves that… hot guys age well, but ugly guys, eh, not so much lmao

  9. Mike Hunte

    This rant was so obviously written by a dude. lol

  10. Just a question

    I hope the author reads this questions, and finds the will and time to answer it.
    I believe that you are a woman, just like me. And because it is obvious you can think for yourself, I must use the opportunity to ask- do you see sex as a thing of male dominance/female submission? If so, would you say that the sex act is per se degrading to a woman? (I’m talking about consensual sex, of course).

  11. Anonymous

    Sad but true.

  12. Anonymous

    Can’t wait for her “where have all the good men gone” follow up LMAO

  13. Pan Cernik

    Isn’t this just satire ?

  14. I'm not a hotdog

    I think we all agreed that the “hot” chick wants a “hot” dog!

  15. The Patriarchy

    If women sexual preferences are liberated and go unchecked, they destroy civilizations. If women are allowed to choose, harems form. Women do not, on an instinctual level, care very much about her tribe, nation or civilization. It’s in their nature not to. This half-century-long experiment of women’s liberation and political enfranchisement has ended in disaster for the West.

    And the damage done to the West may be irreparable. It’s just that women have never been the builders of any of the larger edifices of civilization. And are not, and have never been responsible for maintaining them. This is borne out across every civilization throughout history. Women throughout history have shown time and time again. They’re quick to seek the favors of men they feel are stronger and more dominant, whether they’re part of their in-group or not.

    Heterosexual monogamy is the optimal arrangement for the planning, building, protecting and nurturing of the family. If enough heterosexual partners made a monogamous commitment, civilizational energy was directed toward promoting the finest societal foundation possible.

    From a chaste moral code society’s gain what he called, “expansive energy“. And this energy allowed these cultures to expand into other weaker cultures. Now when you compare the modern Western world with the Islamic one you see exactly the results that Unwin’s theory would predict. By allowing women to “f~~~ freely” the West has defacto entered a matriarchy that dis-incentivizes young men.

    Islam on the other hand, keeps their women chaste and their expansive energy as Unwin’s theory predicts is manifested in what we’re observing today. The Islamic culture is the one who’s expanding into the West And it was only recently that the West was able to dominate all other cultures on the planet.

    Ultimately, each civilization became less cohesive, less aggressive and less resolute. Civilizations in this liminal [a transitional or initial stage of a process] phase then collapsed from either, (a) an internal anarchic revolution or, (b) conquest by invaders with greater social energy.

    simple plan to stop the inherent infighting that occurs because a large majority of men in the in-group, don’t have sexual access to women. or the ability to reproduce legitimate children. The entire basis of Western society was the male agreement to keep only one woman in public, so that every male has near equal chance at reproduction.

    It’s for this reason that organized and advanced civilizations have always needed to agree on the equitable distribution of women, so as to incentivize it’s men to produce and have a stake in the societies health and security.

    But this, like other cultural arrangements that help the West together for centuries is breaking down. And can be observed in something as basic as the fact there are no Western countries that are even at replacement levels in their birth rates. This again can be laid at the feet of the loosening of sexual morality and the dating habits of young women.

  16. Anonymous

    Finally the black pill has been confirmed, now I can rope in peace.

  17. irrutzu copilutu

    go kys

  18. frigulean123

    >talks about a superior race
    >talks about a certain group of people (the ones that she finds repugnant) being inferior in front of other people (the ones she finds visually attractive)
    >talks about how the inferior group of people doesn’t have the same rights and it’s the source of all misery in this world (rape culture, especially)
    > thinks that every woman dating the inferior species is a traitor

    Whoa! Female Hitler, please stop this behaviour! Last time it ended up pretty bad for your country and for the rest of the world, too! Also, stop using this * symbol everytime you curse because it makes you look like a 13 year old finally learning what getting some dick feels like! Much love!

  19. BulbousNosePtosis

    I’m an ugly male in high school. I try to avoid all social interaction since the very sight of my face makes people disturbed for some reason. I once tried to talk to a girl about homework and she said “why are you talking to me”, and ran off. Everyone in my class was staring at me like I just put pineapple on pizza. I laughed since it was so bizarre, but then I realized this could be an issue when I need a job/etc, and interpersonal skills are required.
    The problem is, if I don’t talk to people (for their own good), I’m seen as a creep. But if I do have a morsel of courage, I’m seen as more of a creep. So what is the best plan of action that evolution is trying to tell me? Suicide? Tried that already, ended up in a psych ward.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds about right. Sigmund Freud would have a field day with this OP.

      • B

        Actually, Freud would probably applaud her for being sexually self-aware. Unlike all the men who cope, of course. Freud would actually love to hear incels talking about their vision of a “just world” where they get a beautiful woman for themselves, but in which women care not about the said man’s ugliness.

        • Anonymous

          Life is NOT fair.

        • mjasiszczak@gmail.com

          Freud was pretty ugly, she would tell him to f** off 😀

        • Anonymous

          No, I don’t think he would applaud her. As another commenter stated incisively…

          “…… let’s face it, we are dealing with a “Patriarchy” conspiracy theorist and therefore a gender collectivist here. And the article reflects that via:

          1.) pushing her dating preference as a position of morality, and

          2.) trying to psycho-analyze women who date ugly men.”

          That said, I think the the considerable activity of the OP’s ego balancing the id and the superego would make Freud rapt in trying to understand her grandeur over others. I’m also not impressed with your vacuous defense of her attitude and your snarky use of whataboutism to pivot to the subject of incels. We’re not talking about incels, we’re talking about the OP.

  20. Tikal

    How ironic would it be if OP or the others who are repulsed by ugly guys met a Ted Bundy type? Seriously, having a preference is fine and dandy but being outwardly disgusted by something beyond a person’s control is idiotic. I’d show little sympathy for you if you were placed in that situation.

    • Anonymous

      I won’t go as far as to say that the OP is so vile that she deserves to be murdered (not saying you suggested that), but, yes, it would be very ironic. And given her hate speech, I would not show “little” sympathy for her, I would show NO sympathy. I feel the same way towards those who bullied Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris.

      I agree that she is free to have a preference, but she needs to have the decency to shut her fucking mouth about those that don’t meet her preference. She is not so special that she is immune from guys approaching her in public with interest. No one is.

      • Tikal

        That’s where we differ. I’ll still feel sympathy, despite her opinion. It’s simply a poor metric to judge a person’s value. Considering this is a “A place to rant”, she’s in the right place to state her opinion. You’re absolutely right though, she’s not immune and clearly immature.

        • Anonymous

          I suppose you’re a better person than I am to have sympathy for her despite all she said. I generally don’t waste sympathy on those who exude a Mein Kampf mentality that makes them feel like “genetic superiors” over other people.

          Wouldn’t she accomplish her objective of shaming men into not approaching her (specifically) more efficiently if she were to grow some lady balls and personally voice this statement on YouTube, whereafter guys could recognize her in public and be so disgusted by her attitude that only the hot guys that are only interested in fucking her would approach her?

          Yes, she would be taking on a considerable risk personal-safetywise, but no one ever effectively combatted something so egregious as the “patriarchy” by being a faceless invertebrate on some obscure rant website.

  21. Anonymous

    WOW!!! YOUR A FUCKING BITCH!!

  22. Anonymous

    So true one time a hot girl got robbed I didn’t help her because I wasn’t good looking .

  23. Anonymous

    Everyone who is judging her is probably either one of the guys she is ranting about or a woman who has sold herself out to a beta type. There are so many men out there who won’t date fat women, short women, tall women, successful women, even who won’t date pretty women but gods forbid a woman have preferences of her own. I guess I must be a “cunt” too. I love the sexy bad boy (the only difference is I see them for what they are and I don’t expect to or want to change their ways because if they weren’t bad boys I wouldn’t like them anymore, I accept whst goes along with dating one) and I actually detest “nice guys”. I don’t respect a guy who is clingy, fawns over me or who would let me walk all over him. I refuse to date a man that I’m not physically attracted to or who is boring, weak or unintelligent. He doesn’t have to be perfect or even attractive to other people as long as he is attractive to me. I’m tired of seeing both men and women judged for liking what they like. Everyone is attractive to someone and everyone is ugly to someone. Being happy with the person you are with is what matters, even if it means you would rather be single than have what you don’t want or only half assed want.

    • Anonymous

      Loving the “sexy bad boy” and detesting “nice guys” under your own consciousness does not make you a cunt. Sympathizing with the author who deems “ugly” men as subhuman species to be classified as second-class citizens makes you a cunt.

      Yes, there are many, many men who refuse to date women who are fat, short, tall, successful, and even pretty. And that is there absolute right to do so, as is your absolute right to reject men you are not attracted to. I refuse to date women that I do not find physically attractive, but the difference between me and you and the OP is that I am not going to go on the internet to overtly denigrate women for not measuring up to a physical standard that I think is acceptable for qualifying as a human being worthy of respect, civility, and the same general courtesy you and her would want for yourselves.

      If the OP wants to brool discretely to herself about how she hates ugly men like Hitler hated Jews, that is her own fucking problem. But when a cunt like her takes to a public forum to spout hate speech, then she should expect a response.

      That said, how does your statement in which you said, “I’m tired of seeing both men and women judged for liking what they like,” comport with the OP’s message to unattractive men that they creepy for liking attractive women? Are only attractive people afforded the right to like what they like?

      • Anonymous

        “Are only attractive people afforded the right to like what they like?”

        Yes, that is the implicit message women are sending men these days.

  24. Anonymous

    If looks is all what makes you happy then so be it and if you are not familiar with the concept of grey-zones because your mind is probably conditioned by hollywood movies and unrealistic instagram/social media posts with no hope of recovery then that’s also cool.
    Although keep in mind that beauty fades. The older you get the more worn out and unattractive you will become and you will be what you define as ugly, so there’s that.
    Good luck finding a 10/10 guy as an old worn out lady.

  25. Anonymous

    I’m 15 and this explains why so many girls are repulsed by the sight of me and make an effort to avoid me. Well done on finally debunking this fallacy that personality trumps looks

    • Anonymous

      Little man don’t give up. Not all females are stuck up shallow cunts like the OP. Keep being you. Don’t let anyone ever change you and eventually you will find a girl who will love you for the person you are on the inside.

      • Anonymous

        Lol, the’re all the same. You sound exactly the same like I was told when I was at his age. Young man, you will have a chance in your early 20’s if you looksmax yourself. The most important things for women in men are pretty face (and hair), tight ass, and big arms.

      • Anonymous

        Oh stop it. Don’t feed that poor kid the same old “looks don’t matter” crap. Guys who believe that garbage are just setting themselves up to get taken advantage of or settled for once women hit their late 20s and start looking for marriage. Women are only “less visual” in a materialistic, manipulative way. That’s why they often don’t respect their husbands/boyfriends. High divorce rates,, sexless relationships, cheating, high-maintenance/demanding behavior, constant nagging, resentment, etc, etc….so many women settle for a guy they’re not attracted to, and this shit happens.

  26. Anonymous

    I’m ugly male and I think you’re mostly right. Not only our approach is unwated, but I got something else to add to this. You don’t want attention of any kind from us. Like, suppose you were carrying something heavy and needed hand with a door or something like that — You rather struggle with it yourself than have me help you. Or suppose if I accidentally bump you shoulder-to-shoulder at street and you fell down — You don’t want my apology or help to get up, just to keep the fuck going. Experience speaks.

    Seriously.

    • Anonymous

      As a girl, i can confirm. A few days ago at a bookstore i dropped a few books and this guy who i found ugly picked it up for me, and it wasn’t flattering at all!!! it was kinda creepy i guess, and i didn’t wanna touch the books after but whatever. anyways but there’s just something about ugly guys that makes me shudder in the wrong way, even if they’re just helping. I start questioning their motives and even being around them makes me feel unsafe and embarrassed

      • Anonymous

        As a girl, would you be incensed if a guy, regardless of his appearance, took the same attitude with “ugly” girls? To say you are grossed out by being within a certain distance of “ugly” guys while saying in the next breath that you hate when men judge women by their appearance is grotesquely hypocritical.

        • Anonymous

          Ummm….I never said I hate it if good looking men (or any man) has standards. That’s good for them. Although we are more objectified by society and pressured to fit into a certain beauty standard, men aren’t rlly told enough that we also have the hots for good looking partners as well. I’ve been approached by many guys who I didn’t find handsome, who said generic compliments and expected me to reciprocate. I just tried to get away as fast as I could, all while having to hide the urge to crawl under a table. But they persisted. That’s where they went wrong.

          • Anonymous

            You did not qualify in your original comment that these unattractive men persisted after you clearly showed no interest (which is wrong on their part). You only said that your disgust of that one “ugly” guy at the bookstore was so deep that you didn’t even want to make physical contact with the books he touched. Are you oblivious to how that even sounds?

            Seriously, you are so repulsed by “ugly” men that you don’t want to be within sight of them, as if they don’t deserve to be in the same room as you? There was a time when African-Americans were not allowed to eat in the same venues, drink at the same water fountains, attend the same schools, or even use THE SAME FUCKING TOILETS AS WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE WERE REPULSED BY THEM!!!

            And based on your comment, you do not sound any different from these white supremacists. What if you and your future partner, regardless of your physical traits, procreate a child that grows into a body that is not conventionally attractive? Are you going to tell him, “oh, well, sucks to be you.” Would you want him to be treated the same way you and the OP treat “ugly” men?

          • Foreveralone

            Exactly! coming from an average guy I have to agree with you on that. I don’t mind be complimented by women I’m not attracted to but if I don’t reciprocate and or tell then “thanks but no thanks” I expect them to take the hint. And I’ve also been on the other end with complimenting women and if she tells me the same thing or just ignores me then I don’t bother anymore. It’s really that simple.

          • Alice

            You build your own beauty satandards. Stop blaming society. You want hot guys, be a hot girl (for the short 5ish year’s you have). High value men never settle down until they find a high value woman.
            There will always be a hotter, better woman to replace you. Your use of language alone tells me you’re an undereducated social parasite who relies on temporary looks to get her way. Good luck dying alone.

      • Anonymous

        As a man I can most definitely be the same way. I was at the library and I had a problem with the printer and I got all levels of frustrated. The lady who helped me with the printer was downright homely and unattractive which made the situation MORE frustrating. I DID NOT want her in my personal space helping me with that library printer. If it was instead an attractive woman helping me instead I would’ve calmed right down and my attitude would have been WAY different.

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